Merz Antique Firearms ~ Catalog of Old Guns and Related Items
The Model 1885 was Winchester's first single shot rifle. It was available in two frame sizes, commonly called "Low Wall" and "High Wall." The small Low Wall frame was primarily used for smaller caliber ammunition, and the larger High Wall frame was primarily for larger calibers. The Model 1885 was considered the hot rod rifle of its day. Every serious shooter had a different secret formula that he thought would give him an edge over the competition, resulting in hundreds of variations for the collector today. It was available in 5 different weights of barrel, marked 1 thru 5 on the underside of the barrel, just forward of the forearm. One popular variation of the Winchester '85 is a 22 caliber musket, which was a military training rifle, known as the Winder Musket.
W142A WINCHESTER 1885 MUSKET
Item # W142A
This is a thickside musket in 40-60 cal. A good looking musket with 80%+ blue remaining on the 32" bbl. Some aging and thinning in spots but overall good blue. Receiver was case colored and has aged to a medium brown color. Nice markings on bbl and frame. Wood is also very nice with only one light chip missing in the upper corner. Muskets usually have a big ding or gouge somewhere but this one only has some small handling marks. An early gun at just under 10k serial range. Original musket sight. VG bore with just a trace of some light pitting towards the chamber area. Nice 1885!
Antique $ 3,895.
W1574 WINCHESTER HIGH WALL MUSKET
Item # W1574
Re-chambered in the very desirable 45-90. On top of that, it has a very near excellent bore. Exterior of the bbl is an aged blue with nearly all finish remaining. Light pin pricking on the right half of the muzzle. Standard front sight and a Buffington rear sight. The 7 has been changed to a 9 so that it reads 45-90 on the bbl. Receiver has a nice aged looked with some case colors remaining. It looks like it had a tang sight at one time. Very nice case colors on the upper tang. Overall wood condition is VG. Cleaning rod is present. Comes with a Winchester letter that is dated 1963 and some other notes. A nice looking High Wall and very usable.
Antique $ 4,995.
W1581 EXTREMELY RARE WINCHESTER HIGH WALL THICKSIDE
Item # W1581
Cal 40-90 Sharps. This is the 40-90 Sharps straight. According to the Porter 1885 Survey only 13 were made in this caliber. This is a #3 oct bbl with a low serial number being just over 1k. Nice cond overall with an aged patina to the metal. Some wear and flaking to the bbl creating a grey/brown color. Forearm is nice fitting and in good cond. Buttstock is nice fitting and has a repaired crack at the toe. If you like 1885's in rare calibers this is the one for you!
Antique $ 5,750.
8274 WINCHESTER BRITISH PROOFED LOW-WALL RIFLE IN 22 LONG RIFLE CALIBER
Item # 8274
Approximately 90% bbl blue, some thinning at the muzzle end, nice shiny receiver blue with about 90% remaining as well, good fitting wood, Swiss buttplate, forearm has two very small holes where somebody probably had a palm rest. Sights include Globe front, standard rear and tang, bore is in good cond although there is some roughness. This evidently was somebody's Sunday afternoon target gun. Well cared for, nice gun.
Modern $ 3,100.
W42 WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 DELUXE SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Item # W42
Caliber .22 Short. Original 28 inch #3 full octagon barrel with an excellent bore. Sights include a vernier folding tang sight and a wind gauge front sight with spirit level. Original 3X grade pistol grip checkered Schuetzen style stock is in excellent condition with most orig lacquer intact, helm buttplate and Dutch pattern cheekpiece. Overall gun is exc with 98% orig bbl blue, 75-80% bright vivid case colors. The Schuetzen rifles with a case colored frame are really quite unusual, they're generally later guns than that. Complete with Factory Letter of Authenticity which states, 'no rear sight seat' but this has got a sight dovetail for a rear sight-probably an oversight or somebody put it in at a later time. If that's the case, they did a perfect job. Formerly in the Eldon Owens collection.
Antique $ 12,500 .
W1502 WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 LOW WALL RIFLE
Item # W1502
Cal 32 RF short. 26" full round No. 1 bbl. Excellent bore. Sights include Lyman front, typical sporting rear and a folding Lyman tang sight. Wood is excellent with nearly all orig varnish and only minor handling mars. Rifle style buttplate. Overall metal is excellent with 98% orig bright glossy blue and 98% vivid case colors remaining. Beautiful little gun! Complete with Cody Research form.
Antique $ 4,100.
W1629 WINCHESTER HIGH WALL RIFLE
Item # W1629
Scarce caliber 50-95 WCF. Just over 100 were made according to Factory records. This one features the scarce thick side frame. Original 30 inch #3 barrel. Platinum lined rear sight. Wood has a few minor handling mars but still retains most orig varnish and rifle style buttplate. Most of these had shotgun butts and English proof markings. Fine cond at about 50% orig blue. A couple minor areas of pitting by the receiver. Receiver has about 30-40% case color showing. Vivid on one side and turning dark on the other. Comes with factory letter.
Antique $ 7,750.
W2107 HI-WALL WINCHESTER 1885 SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Item # W2107
28 inch Number 3 octagon barrel. Caliber 32-40. Gun features a excellent bore, checkered pistol grip walnut stocks in excellent condition and a cheek piece. Helm style Schuetzen buttplate. Double set triggers. This gun was originally factory fitted with scope blocks since the caliber markings and Winchester legend is off to the side. No sights front, rear or tang were ever fitted. Mounted on the orig Winchester blocks is vintage J. Unertle mounts and scope. Wood is in good condition with a few dings and mars. No splits or cracks. Also fitted with a palm rest. Metal retains about 95% blue. Good case colors on the hammer and lever. Fine little gun.
Modern $ 7,750.
W2103 LO-WALL WINCHESTER 1885 RIFLE
Item # W2103
Caliber 32 short. 26 inch number 2 barrel. Mint bore. Original sights include a spirit level rear barrel sight and a Wittek-Vaver front sight as well as the 7-set inserts to go with it. The tang sight is a Wittek-Vaver sight also. This is the only time I have seen this type of sight that has all the pieces with it. Very unusual. Gun is in superb condition with 98% bright vivid case hardening on the receiver, lever and hammer. Buttplate has faded to a nickely color. Barrel retains 97% blue. Mint bore. Wood is excellent plus with a rifle style buttplate. Scarce combination sights. Fantastic little gun.
Antique $ 5,750.
5166 INTERESTING 1885 LOW WALL WINCHESTER FACTORY TEST RIFLE
Item # 5166
This interesting Winchester was used as an ammunition testing rifle at the factory. Caliber is 22 SHORT. 23-1/2 inch round #1 barrel is hand-stamped "3-19-38." Of course this bore has seen a lot of use, but it is still bright. No provisions for a forearm. Has marks on stock and metal consistent with being clamped down to a bench. 90% blue on left side of frame, right side is 75% blue with wear marks. Barrel has 80% blue with localized wear patterns. Rifle style buttplate. Lyman beaded front and a Marbles rear sight. Factory letter states it was shipped in 1901, then returned and repaired in 1908, 1909 and 1910. Would make an interesting display piece for the low wall or ammo collector.
Modern $ 1,950.
W458 WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL
Item # W458
Scarce 50 express caliber. Original 30 inch No. 3 full round barrel. Express Lyman beaded front sight as well as 3-leaf express rear sight. Bore has good rifling and some shine with a few light pits. Original wood in generally good condition with a considerable amount of varnish remaining and a rifle style buttplate. Receiver has turned a mostly plum/brown patina with 50% bbl blue starting to turn. Nice all original gun. Correct but not in the range for a Letter.
Antique $ 8,500.
3618 WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL CHAMBERED FOR THE RARELY ENCOUNTERED 40-70 BALLARD
Item # 3618
Original 30 inch full octagon #3 barrel chambered in 40-70 Ballard. Original sights. VG shootable bore-just a few light scattered pits. Original wood is sound with no split or cracks and retains a fair amount of varnish. Overall metal has turned basically a plum brown patina coloration with traces of blue. The balance having turned an untouched brown patina. All original with a very early serial number range. Scarce Caliber-just over 300 40-70 Ballards were ever manufactured.
Antique $ 3,250.
8551 VERY UNIQUE SMOOTH BORE WINCHESTER HIGH WALL, 2-BARREL SET
Item # 8551
Featuring a 26 inch 20 Gauge shotgun bbl and a 30 inch .38-55 Smooth Bore bbl. This set is photographed in John Campbell's second Winchester Single Shot book and is the only set that I know of that is comprised of two different shot cartridge bbls. Overall gun is in exc cond with the 38-55 bbl retaining 98% bright shiny orig blue and an exc bore. The 20 Gauge bbl has a few very minor frecklings from bad storage but still retains almost all the blue with an exc bore. Matching wood on the two forearms and buttstock are in exc cond with a very few light handling mars; complete with correct shotgun style buttplate. Receiver finish is probably about 75% with some flaking and toning on one side but still crisp and sharp with no signs of pits. Guaranteed all orig. 113,XXX serial number range-too high to get a Letter but on close examination by taking it apart, the inside work numbers match on both barrels.
Modern $ 16,500.
W2182 WINCHESTER 1885 WINDER MUSKET
Item # W2182
28 inch barrel chambered in 22 Short. Bright shiny bore. Most all original blue remains on all metal surfaces. Butt plate is a brow/gray patina. A wear spot on the barrel where it was most likely carried. Wood is in good condition with an added coat of finish applied. Sling swivels. Standard front and correct Lyman rear sights. "U.S." and Flaming Bomb markings. These were designed to be a training rifle with the same length and weight as a service rifle. Good looking Winchester Lo-Wall that would be a lot of fun to shoot!
Modern $ 1,375 .
W366 RARE WINCHESTER HIGH WALL 34” BARREL
Item # W366
That is right! This 1885 has a 34" #3 bbl. Cal 32-40. Not only is it rare but it is a very nice condition Winchester with 90%+ blue remaining on the bbl. Light wear to the octagon edges. and a little at the muzzle. Inside is a VG+ bore. Ample case colors remain on the frame. Equipped with bbl sights and also a Lyman tang sight. VG condition buttstock with rifle buttplate. Forearm likewise with just one very light hairline crack on the right side. A very special High Wall in a great caliber!
Antique $ 5,775.
W369 WINCHESTER 1885 HI-WALL SCHUETZEN CUSTOM BUILT RIFLE
Item # W369
Cal 38-55. 32" part oct #4 bbl, Beach globe front sight and rear sight filler block. Metal retains most of the restored finish blue, nickel and case color. Beautiful Rosewood checkered stocks have most of the high gloss finish remaining with only minor mars. Swiss buttlate is oversized and ill fitting. Nice functioning action.
Modern $ 6,875.
6470 RARE POPE BARRELED WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN .38-55
Item # 6470
30 inch part octagon #4 barrel with excellent left hand twist Pope rifling. Stevens-Pope marked barrel (original caliber on bottom flat along with # '1900'; 'H M Pope' also marked on left barrel flat). Barrel is fitted with Unertl type scope blocks and Lyman Junior target spot scope. 95% lustrous blue overall. Winchester helm style pistol grip. Checkered deluxe buttstock with cheekpiece and nickeled helm buttplate. Checkered deluxe forearm with tuning fork palm rest. Fine walnut retains most all original lacquer. Double set triggers with custom finger grip scroll lever. Spirit level Windage globe front and vernier tang sights. Great looking gun.
Antique $ 16,500.
W394 WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 LO-WALL RIFLE
Item # W394
Fancy deluxe pistol grip checkered wood in fine condition with a rifle style buttplate. According to the Factory Letter the gun was originally 30" oct #1 bbl, caliber 22 short, set trigger, pistol grip checkered stock and no sights front or rear. The gun now is fitted with globe front sight, an insert in the rear bbl and a folding tang sight. Also fitted with scope blocks and a couple extra holes for additional scope blocks on top of the bbl. BBl now measures 29" and was set back an inch and rechambered to 25-20 single shot. Gun was nicely refinished and retains about 50% blue turning a plum color. Silver plaque in buttstock for inscription or presentation. Interesting gun.
Antique $ 3,950.
W1073 WINCHESTER 1885 LO-WALL SINGLE SHOT RIFLE
Item # W1073
Cal 22. This is one of the US Cartridge test guns and is marked on the side of the receiver "USC CO #422-12-12-08". Gun retains about 50% blue turning a plum color. Correct front sight. Rear bbl sight is missing. Stock has numerous scars and dings which was typical on all these cartridge test guns. Correct checkered shotgun style buttplate. Number one configuration bbl measures 22". I think it was originally 24" and has been re-chambered and set back into the frame which they frequently did since they shot the hell out of these cartridge test guns. A scarce unique gun.
Modern $ 875.
4230 WINCHESTER HIGH WALL CALIBER 22 LR MUSKET
Item # 4230
Excellent bore. Original sights include the adjustable swivel rear bbl sight. Original musket style wood is in VG condition with just a few mars and dings. Sound and solid with no splits or cracks. Original varnish still intact. Original sling swivels still attached. VG throughout with about 90% blue starting to tone on bbl. Receiver having a high nickel content has flaked and is mostly a plum/brown. Sharp markings. Crisp tight action. Excellent inside and out.
Modern $ 1,975.
W1494 WINCHESTER MODEL 1895 HIGH WALL RIFLE
Item # W1494
Cal 32 Ideal. This gun originally left the factory as rifle, 32 Ideal, 30" half oct, #3 bbl, plain trigger, checkered pistol grip stock and shipped March 2, 1907. The gun now features a 30" full round #3 bbl. Take down frame. Double set triggers. Checkered pistol grip plain walnut stock. Special order rifle buttplate with a trapdoor. Fitted with a scope. It has the "WP" marks in front of the blocks. The cal marking is off to the side of the block and was factory applied no doubt. It is fitted with a B-4 Winchester scope. Globe with a spirit level front sight. Folding tang sight. Fine little gun! All the work is definitely factory. Scarce cal as only 230 were ever manufactured. Cond excellent+ with about 98% glossy blue. Excellent case colors on the hammer and lever. Someone neatly carved "1907" in the stock about 1/4" lettering. That was the date the gun was received back from the Winchester re-work. On the opposite side is a well done carved family crest.
Antique $ 11,500.
W1493 DELUXE WINCHESTER 1885 HIGH WALL IN CALIBER 30 US
Item # W1493
Orig 30" full round #3 bbl. Globe front sight. Typical flat top sporting rear sight and folding Lyman tang sight. This gun is fitted with 3X grade checkered deluxe walnut stock and a cheek piece and rifle style buttplate. Stock seems over-sized. Assembly number matches the lower tang numbers so I believe it to be orig. The Factory Letter lists all the features except it has plain pistol grip checkered stock with hard rubber buttplate. Either an error or it was returned to the factory and fitted with this stock. Definitely matches the rest of the gun. Bbl retains about 90% somewhat toning orig blue. Receiver has 90%+ vivid case color. Excellent mechanics. Nice clean little gun!
Antique $ 9,500.
W39 1885 LOW WALL WINCHESTER RIFLE IN 25 CALIBER STEVENS
Item # W39
24" full octagon #1 bbl with an exc bore, originally was 22L. Interesting marking on bbl says "Rebored and Rifled by J. Stevens A&T Co." Barrel was factory reblued at that time and retains 95% heavy blue. Orig wood has a few light handling mars but is in generally near excellent with most orig varnish. Rifle style buttplate retains a considerable amount of case colors. Nice, clean, unique little gun complete with Lyman blade front and a very scarce series 62 folding Lyman tang sights.
Antique $ 2,975.
W1239 WINCHESTER HI-WALL TAKE DOWN
Item # W1239
Cal 33 WCF. Features a half oct 34" No.3 bbl with an excellent bore. Correct front sight. Rear sight has been filled in and is barely visible. Correct tang sight. Wood is in excellent cond with near all orig varnish and rifle style butt plate. Overall metal is excellent with what appears to be a very professional re-finish. Gun is in the 110k serial range. I believe it to be made up of parts out of the factory that were left over. The 33 WCF that will letter is unheard of. A very interesting unique gun for someone who doesn't have a 33. Take down frame. Clean sharp good looking gun overall.
Modern $ 4,950.
7217 WINCHESTER LOW WALL RIFLE IN RARE 25-20 SINGLE SHOT
Item # 7217-27-110
28 inch full octagon #2 barrel is marked 25 WCF which should not be mistaken for the 25-20 WCF that was not developed until 5 years after this gun was made. 25-20 S.S. does chamber. VG+ bore. Correct sights including a Marbles folding tang. Original wood is in VG condition with an old repair at the wrist. Overall gun is very near excellent condition retaining most all original thinning blue on the barrel with some light pitting near the muzzle. Vivid case colors on the receiver. Sharp looking gun!
Antique $ 3,950.
W1572 RARE THICKSIDE HIGH WALL
Item # W1572 -27-126
Cal 50-95 WCF. According to the survey on 1885 Winchesters there were just over 100 high walls made in cal 50-95. 30" No. 3 round bbl. 3-leaf rear sight and Rocky Mtn front sight. Nice early HW in the 12k serial range. A real nice rifle with nearly all bbl blue remaining. Thinning in some spots and a few rub marks. Receiver is mostly grey with hints of orig case colors remaining. Nice solid action and VG bore with strong rifling. Very light pitting in front of chamber area. Bore is bright and shiny. Complete with Cody Research Form. Another fine rare Winchester from Merz Antique Guns!
Antique $ 7,500.
W365 DELUXE SPECIAL ORDER WINCHESTER 1885
Item # W365
30 US cal. 30 inch #3 heavy round barrel with almost all original thinning blue remaining. Bore is shiny with strong rifling. Case colored receiver has about 50% fading colors remaining. Single set trigger that works. Combination folding front sight and short range tang sight with a block in the rear dovetail. Dimming colors remain on the butt plate. Case colors present on the hammer and lever. Deluxe extra figure checkered wood with checkered pistol grip on butt stock. Checkering has a few dings and the forearm has a 1/2 inch crack on the right side. Otherwise wood is sound. The unique thing about this rifle is that it doesn't have a serial number on the bottom tang. This is a good looking rifle with a caliber that you can hunt with too.
Antique $ 6,950.
W278A CUSTOM WINCHESTER HI-WALL WITH SWISS BUTT
Item # W278A
This 1885 has the classical deluxe Schuetzen style stock with the less exaggerated Swiss buttplate. For most shooters this would make it more usable. Wood is beautiful "starburst" dlx wood in VG condition. Some scratches and handling marks. Nice fitting. Forearm wood is also dlx in VG cond also. Nice Vernier mid-height tang site and globe front sight. Bbl also has blocks for Winchester or Lyman scope. Custom with orig Winchester #3 bbl which is now 26". This bbl has been set back evident by the bbl markings being partially obscured by the receiver bridge. Someone did some magnificent high quality work on this bbl in taking a 22 cal bbl (believed to have been) and having it re-bored and re-rifled into a 25 cal. This is a 25 cal "Wildcat" built by someone with talent. We don't know exactly what Wildcat cartridge this is chambered in since that information was lost in time. It is a rim cartridge in a large diameter and not based on 45-70 nor 38-55. A chamber casting would have to be done. With the size of the case, this one will have some punch to it. Another feature is the double-set trigger that works nicely. Lower tang is a replacement that likely was ordered when they built this gun. No serial number. Nearly all metal finish remains. A nice deep blue and very good looking. If you are into Wildcating this would be a dandy!
Antique $ 5,500.
W277A WINCHESTER 1885 HI-WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Item # W277A-27-99
22 Short. Equipped with a #3 bbl. As with most Schuetzen rifles this one is set up for target shooting. It has an early unmarked scope with a unique mounting system. It is mounted on Winchester blocks tapped into the bbl. There are 2 extra holes in front of the front block that have been plugged. This gun also has a simple post front sight. Metal condition is VG throughout with nearly all blue remaining on both bbl and receiver. Still some traces of case color on the lever. This is equipped with a double set trigger that does work. Very fancy wood with exaggerated perch belly stock and a Schuetzen buttplate. The Schuetzen buttplate has had the top point or arm removed which makes it much easier to shoulder. Wood condition is near excellent with a few shooting mars and marks. Quite certain this 1885 would be a dandy shooter because it has a near perfect bore.
Modern $ 4,500.
W175 EXTREMELY RARE WINCHESTER HIGH WALL WITH NO. 5 BARREL
Item # W175-27-104
This is a deluxe 1885 with a cheek piece and a heavy thick Swiss buttplate. The buttplate has been lightly modified. Also there are special sights on this gun with a mid range Vernier tang sight and a globe front sight with level. Research form shows that this gun originally had a half oct No. 2 bbl. There is also a notation for 2 R&R's back to Winchester. One would conclude that is when the No. 5 heavy bbl was put on. Another thing abut the No. 5 bbl is the matted top finish. A lot of rarities in this bbl. Cal is 32-40. VG bore. Nice rifling. Shiny bore. Could use a cleaning. It appears to have a couple of light areas of pitting in front of the chamber. The riflings do come right down to the chamber. Equipped with a set trigger. This exceptional High Wall is chocked full of special features.
Antique $ 5,575.
W1573 VERY RARE CALIBER WINCHESTER HIGH WALL MUSKET
Item # W1573-27-118
This is the thick side variety in 40-60 Marlin cal. According to the Survey of Cartridges by Porter; there were only 6 made in this caliber! 24k serial range with a 32" bbl, ram rod and sling swivels. The bbl is a grey/brown patina with good markings. Receiver is also an aged grey color. Nice tight action. VG bore. Wood is way above average for a musket and looks good! This High Wall Musket also comes with bayonet.
Antique $ 11,500.
W5370 ONE OF A KIND WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL MUSKET IN CALIBER .32-40
Item # W5370-27-122
The only known. Original 30" musket style barrel, full length musket forearm, cleaning rod, sporting buckhorn rear & blade front sights. Original wood excellent+, sling swivels; all original finish, vivid case colors on BP. Overall excellent+ retaining virtually all original blue & vivid c.c. on hammer & lever. Guaranteed all original; Factory Letter detailing the fact that it's a musket, the caliber, barrel length, sporting rear, Lyman rear & tang sights. Tang sight missing. Excellent+ in & out. A great gun.
Modern $ 9,500.